Showing posts with label music. Show all posts
Showing posts with label music. Show all posts

Secular Songs that Sound like Christian Rock

It has been quite some time since I've blogged. I guess I'll never get rich by doing this, but oh well.

For today, I have something silly in mind. Actually, it has been on my mind for quite some time. This is a list of secular songs that -for some reason- sound like Christian Rock. YouTube clips will be aid you in this matter.

For the sake of brevity, I am excluded every song ever written by U2.

Here's the first: Sweet Child of Mine, by Guns and Roses:

It was my friend Jeff who first mentioned how much this sounds like Christian rock. It must be something about the glaring Les Paul guitar tone, the formulaic intro, and the fact that it is really easy to sing along too.

In fact, haven't some Christian Rockers changed the lyrics to "sweet God of mine"? Am I just imagining that?

Take a few minutes to let your ears recover from that guitar tone. We move onto something else next:

I like muse a lot. But seriously, this is just to fucking easy. It's all in the title. The only thing that screams "Christian Rock" more than "Guiding Light" is "Mighty Tower" or "strong deliverance." Its so glaringly loud I wonder if MUSE used the phrase intentionally.

Please don't do that again, MUSE.

Moving on then:


The majority of this song does not sound like Christian Rock, but listen to the piano chord progression at the end. I defy you to look me in the eye and tell me it doesn't make you think of Spirit filled revelers dancing in a four square church. Don't you expect to here chords like that just as the pastor is firing up the high the sermon? Hallelujah! Get Saved'ah!!

Now, it wouldn't be complete without electronica right?


BT is one of my favorite artists, so it hurts to compare this to Christian Rock. In fact, this sounds like a specific Christian Rock: Skillet.

A quick word about Skillet: I liked their second album. Their third was decent. They've had their suck-knobs cranked to 10 ever since.

So I will say this: BT's "Forget Me" sounds like an extremely good song from the second Skillet album, inwhich their most talented musician was still a band member, and before they started cycling musicians faster than Bruce Wilkinson books, and dressing stupidly.



BT, there is actually a chance I might meet you someday, so please take this comparison in the most glowing way possible.

Damien Rice - The Blower's Daughter - Official Video



Having chatted with someone about love and lost love and broken hearts and hope, I found myself singing this exquisite song from Damien Rice.

The lyrics, below, are all about love, life, loss, broken hearts and ...

Well I hope you enjoy this fragile, musical beauty.

And so it is
Just like you said it would be
Life goes easy on me
Most of the time
And so it is
The shorter story
No love, no glory
No hero in her sky

I can't take my eyes off of you
I can't take my eyes off you
I can't take my eyes off of you
I can't take my eyes off you
I can't take my eyes off you
I can't take my eyes...

And so it is
Just like you said it should be
We'll both forget the breeze
Most of the time
And so it is
The colder water
The blower's daughter
The pupil in denial

I can't take my eyes off of you
I can't take my eyes off you
I can't take my eyes off of you
I can't take my eyes off you
I can't take my eyes off you
I can't take my eyes...

Did I say that I loathe you?
Did I say that I want to
Leave it all behind?

I can't take my mind off of you
I can't take my mind off you
I can't take my mind off of you
I can't take my mind off you
I can't take my mind off you
I can't take my mind...
My mind...my mind...
'Til I find somebody new

ELBOW - ONE DAY LIKE THIS - LIVE ON ABBEY ROAD



According to his twitter feed, Banksy (yes the artist) was listening to this band earlier and it reminded me of seeing them live a little while ago.

Awesome band.

Awesome song.

Oh, and just to say that things will be a bit quiet here for a bit. Hope you enjoy what's here in the meantime...

Over and out

Dave Matthews Band #41 Live



The day I got married to my wonderful wife, my Dad drove me to the church. It was gloriously sunny.

We listened to this wonderful song on the way.

Today is grey, cold and wet, but I am having a DMB sorta day and I thought I'd share those memories and this version of that song and say that I love my wife very much indeed!

Ani, ani, ani...



I blame an American friend of mine (thank you so much Beth!) for my long-term love of Ani Difranco's music. Whilst I have backslidden a little in recent years, after a visit from my sister and her family this week and plans being laid to go to the Cambridge Folk Festival next year and it reminded me of the year I nearly went a few years ago when she was playing...

I dug out some of her cds and have been playing them again and I am in love again... This clip really sums up the sheer beauty of music married with simple and yet powerful and pointed lyrics.

Her life story is a bit of a prodigal one, but one written striving for justice, for freedom, and for recognition. In some ways, whilst she her life and lifestyle have not been exactly in tune with the traditional interpretation of the Christian Gospel, her overall canon is sung metaphorically and spiritually according to those Gospel values.

I hope you enjoy. I am all over again...

Mansun, The Chad Who Loved Me, Live at Brixton Academy, 1998



The late, great, much missed Mansun...

Marillion - Splintering Heart



I love this band...

I never loved this song really until I heard it live...

This is a particularly special version...

I was at this gig...

Happy memories...

Metallica - Enter Sandman



Long time no hear! I heard this on the radio this morning. Takes me back to a transitional place in my life.

This came out in 1991. I left school in 1991 having failed my A levels. My parents had moved South from Lancshire where I had grown up, and I stayed on in Lancs with a friend and his family to finish off my Upper 6th. I had spent much of my later teens playing drums in the rock band 'Tom Foolery' (I know I know...), sometimes known as 'War and Peace', and if you were around the Blackpool rock scene then you might have come across us. I suspect that my mind was concentrated on the band rather than the revision...

After getting my exam results, I joined my parents in Somerset, where they still live, and decided what to do next. I was in a dark place. Uncertain of my present. Uncertain of my future. I had planned to have a year backpacking before so I decided to travel anyway. That in itself was a transformative time as it is then that I really became aware of the presence of God myself and I became a Christian.

This song is about childhood nightmares and the liminal space where the monster under the bed, the Sandman dwells. The places where the darkness that surrounds at night is transformed into a place of fear because of the presence of the Sandman.

It is all too easy for us to find ourselves as adults surrounded by darkness and to allow that darkness to be a place where we become fearful because of the presence of all sorts of things that frighten or worry us.

The song marks a transition for me from being a teen to being an adult. From being a non-believer to being a Christian. The dark that surrounds us like a cloak is a liminal place - but I have come to know those dark places of uncertainty in my life to be places where God dwells.

Music heaven!

I am just loving a cd that my dear Dad has leant me. It is a wonderful, life-affirming, and emotional mix of Scottish folk and jazz. 'Stramash' by Colin Steele. Stramash is a Scottish word meaning a disturbance, racket, or crash. The music is disturbing and creates a racket, but the disturbance is good because it unsettles the listener out of norms and expectations. The music is a racket, because I suspect that live it is pretty loud! I had never come across him before, but from his website:

Since the release of his debut album Twilight Dreams in 2002, Colin Steele’s highly original and melodic Scottish folk-influenced jazz has won just about every UK jazz plaudit there is; from BBC Jazz CD of the Year and Jazz Review international CD of the Year (for his album ‘The Journey Home’) to CD of the year accolades in The Guardian, Observer, Independent and The New Statesman. Steele’s compositions are inspired by Scottish and Irish folk music, but are firmly rooted in the jazz tradition.

Colin took up the trumpet in 1980 and joined his first jazz group the John Rae Collective at the age of 19 (which included Brian Kellock and Phil Bancroft). He then went on to work with Tommy Smith, Tom Bancroft Orchestra and pop band Hue and Cry.

Between 1990 and 1996 he travelled Europe extensively, living in France, then London, then Italy. On his return to Scotland in 1997 he established the phenomenally successful live music club Midnight Blue, which ran for three years and attracted over 40,000 people during this time. Around this time he also began composing, forming his first quintet in 2000.

Colin has also toured and collaborated with many international jazz artists, including The Bad Plus, Jon Christenson, Arild Anderson, Geri Allen and Steve Slagle. He is also involved with a variety of different genres, including Scottish folk music with the Unusual Suspects and Aidan O’ Rourke’s band Sirius, and with various dance and drum and bass projects including Aqua Bassino, Jo Malik and Yush 2K, as well as Latin and funk with his own bands Mas Que Nada and Melting Pot.

Colin has also collaborated on a number of theatrical projects including writing the original score for Mike Maran’s highly successful theatre show ‘The Little World Of Don Camillo’, and he wrote and performed the score for ‘Look Back In Anger’ which starred David Tennant.

Check it out some soundclips here.

I hope you investigate it and enjoy it as much as I am.

What is the fate of Christian Music?

Christianity Today published an article recently. As one would expect, the recession we are in is hurting the already limping Christian music industry. A number of years ago, I would have reacted very different to this. Right now, I am a bit mixed.

My first reaction to this, honestly, was “what would we lose?” I can still think of many Christian artists that I really like, but the majority of the really popular ones I do not listen to. I have heard rumors from many of peers that much of GWM (“Generic Worship Music” my name for Christian Contemporary) might be performed by Christian, but not necessarily written by Christians. This would explain why many worship songs sound like a disjunctive, strung together, list of Evangelicalese cliché.

The general consumerism of GWM bothers me too. I recently went to a bible study which opened with a time of worship. They put on a sing-along DVD -complete with helicopter shots of Hawaii, the Grand Canyon, a beach etc- and people sat around singing softly. This was done while there was a piano in the room and at least two capable musicians who could have led others in song. This whole DVD felt so coldly impersonal that it made me shudder. (Glory be to God the plasma screen, DVD, and 5.1 surround sound!) Are we Christians really so bound to our culture that we can’t even play songs for each other anymore?

Yet still, I think of all the artists –the sincere ones- who are trying to combine their love for music, performance, people and God. Certainly, they did not expect to make career (or maybe they did), but such individuals deserve our support. I have always thought that it is sad how the Christian artists I think are the best are the least heard and the least well treated. Furthermore, I still remember the fun of camping out at Christian music festivals when I was 19-20ish a number of years ago. Those concerts were good times. As weird as Evangelicalism can be, it was nice to be an environment that was “safe” by comparison to secular concerts.

Nonetheless, I am not exactly sure what could happen to save the ailing niche market. The difficulties of being a successful artist seem compounded by the internet, the economy, and business in general. Becoming one of those successful celebrity type Christian Musicians seems damn unlikely.

But maybe God doesn’t need musicians to become ‘rock stars’ anyway.

Can God Hear Music?

(For all my musician friends)

I endorse something other (and I believe better) than “God is outside of time” dogma. This is controversial for sure, but I cannot help what started as an intuitive aversion and has grown into Open Theism. True, very smart and sincere Christians disagree with me and others on this. Yet “God is outside of time” still seems to create problems. Already, I have argued why I think it is a problem for free will. Now, I think I have another: can a timeless God hear music? Can he know our songs and voices when we sing to him? Or is music, which must exist in time, simply another ‘weakness’ of us pitied temporal beings? The truth may be in between, but If God is timeless, hearing music might be very, very, hard.

God’s timelessness –or eternality- carries with it some implications for knowledge of anything –music included. Timelessness does not say that God lives forever, or that God has infinitely long past. Rather, it says that God is outside these temporal categories altogether. Putting time prepositions on God such as “before,” “during,” “after,” etc are actually incoherent. There can be no changes in God, for this involves time. Likewise there can be no learning in God, for this would change God’s knowledge.

God’s timeless knowledge of things in time is different than our knowledge. God knows all things, as Aquinas put it, “in one act of understanding.” God knows all things without them being mediated via time or anything else. Saying God knows “instantly” fails to capture it. This of course, does not mean that God doesn’t know when things happen. God knows that my typing occurs at 11:08am Friday morning. He also knows that I drive my Toyota at 9:43am the same day, and that I talk with a friend at 12:32pm. God knows the times, but God does not experience them in a sequential order. This would imply changes in God’s knowledge and thus violate timelessness.

The crux of the problem comes when we think about what music is. During my time at a junior college (I was a music major, then I switched to theology for the money), my theory instructor explained that music is an art form that unfolds in time. It is not like a painting or sculpture that is static. When listening to music, we hear a sequence of notes, changes in timbre, crescendo etc. Something as fundamental as a single pitch (“the A string vibrates at 440hertz per second”) is still measured and described in time. For someone to know music as music, it must be known in time. Dramatic crescendos are not music until you hear them soft before and then louder later. A melody is not a melody unless you hear one note, followed by another note, and then a third and so on. To know music, one must do something a timeless being does not: know things in a sequential order and experiences the changes over time.

Some may object here and say that a timeless God would know music just like he knows everything else. God knows this note is played at this time, another is played at another time, a third played a different time and so on and so forth. God knows also the intensity and volume of each note. Any other detail he knows in the same way. Thus, God knows an entire song in one act of understanding, without experiencing it sequentially.

But is this really music? What this sounds more like to me is a piece of music written down but not played, or better yet MIDI data or piano reel. Does anybody seriously think that looking at piano reel is fundamentally the same as actually listening to a piano? Of course not. The piano reel or the MIDI data are not music. It is not until that you hit the “play” button and listen to changes of sounds and music sequentially and in time.

Some may persist, under that grounds (or habit) that God’s timeless is simply too sacrosanct to reject. I can respect this position, but I still think that it has certain implications for music. If someone wants to preserve God’s timelessness and God hearing music, then we have to change the term “music” slightly. Instead of saying that music is art form that unfolds in time, we have to be willing to say that there is no essential difference between MIDI data and music being heard in time. Or, a piece of sheet music is more fundamentally music than that music performed. This is strange implication that I think most musicians (myself included) would not accept, but this is what I think follows from reconciling God’s timelessness and God hearing music.

That’s the end of this blog then. Music is something that must be experienced sequentially, but a timeless God experiencing nothing sequentially. Therefore, God does not know music. No doubt, many of you reading this probably think I’ve gone of the top. Chances are you are correct. Nonetheless, I think that my lifelong involvement with music is probably one of the reasons why I’ve always had an intuitive aversion to timelessness dogma.

Thanks for reading.
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